Manhood and Womanhood according to the Bible for life and ministry – How Important is Complementarianism?

2 videos recently out that are helpful discussions:

The Gospel Coalition: Don Carson, Tim Keller, John Piper

Together for the Gospel: John Piper, Russ Moore, Greg Gilbert, and Lig Duncan

An audio resource I’d also recommend:

Feminism in Your Church and Home with Russell Moore, Randy Stinson, and C.J. Mahaney – What does Randy Stinson say feminism is? Why does Russ Moore say most members of our churches are in “same sex” marriages? Why does Mark Dever think pastors should pay attention? Why does C.J. Mahaney think Mark needs to make a bigger deal of complementarianism vs. egalitarianism than he does?

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About pjtibayan

I love Jesus Christ and live to share life and share Jesus together with First Southern Baptist Church of Bellflower primarily to Southeast Los Angeles County.
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4 Responses to Manhood and Womanhood according to the Bible for life and ministry – How Important is Complementarianism?

  1. CLARKFIELD ARRONO says:

    yes,i agree to the manhood and womanhood ministry because it was in the old testament when Deborah and Baruch led the wars against their enemies.Deborah was a great Priestess while Baruch was her warrior leader.

    • pjtibayan says:

      Thanks Clarkfield. Here’s what Grudem and Piper write about this:

      27. How do you explain God’s apparent endorsement of women in the Old Testament
      who had prophetic or leadership roles?
      First, we keep in mind that God has no antipathy toward revealing His will to women.
      Nor does He pronounce them unreliable messengers. The differentiation of roles for men
      and women in ministry is rooted not in women’s incompetence to receive or transmit
      truth, but in the primary responsibility of men in God’s order to lead and teach. The
      instances of women who prophesied and led do not call this order into question. Rather,
      there are pointers in each case that the women followed their unusual paths in a way that
      endorsed and honored the usual leadership of men, or indicted their failures to lead.
      For example, Miriam, the prophetess, focused her ministry, as far as we can tell, on
      the women of Israel (Exodus 15:20). Deborah, a prophetess, judge, and mother in Israel
      (Judges 4:4; 5:7), along with Jael (Judges 5:24-27), was a living indictment of the
      weakness of Barak and other men in Israel who should have been more courageous
      leaders (Judges 4:9). (The period of the judges is an especially precarious foundation for
      building a vision of God’s ideal for leadership. In those days God was not averse to
      bringing about states of affairs that did not conform to His revealed will in order to
      achieve some wise purpose [cf. Judges 14:4].) Huldah evidently exercised her prophetic
      gift not in a public preaching ministry but by means of private consultation (2 Kings
      22:14-20). And Anna the prophetess filled her days with fasting and prayer in the temple
      (Luke 2:36-37).

      We must also keep in mind that God’s granting power or revelation to a person is no
      sure sign that this person is an ideal model for us to follow in every respect. This is
      evident, for example, from the fact that some of those God blessed in the Old Testament
      were polygamists (e.g. Abraham and David). Not even the gift of prophecy is proof of a
      person’s obedience and endorsement by God. As strange as this sounds, Matthew 7:22, 1
      Corinthians 13:2, and 1 Samuel 19:23-24 show that this is so. Moreover, in the case of
      each woman referred to above we have an instance of a charismatic emergence on the
      scene, not an installation to the ordinary Old Testament office of priest, which was the
      responsibility of men.

  2. Mary says:

    Barak is commended in Hebrews 11 as a hero of faith even though he was directed by Deborah, to describe him as weak ignores this. In the New Testament the order given when greeting people mattered e.g. Barnabas preceded Paul then as Paul’s role increased it became Paul and Barnabas. It is significant, therefore, that Priscilla is named before Aquila. I worry that the emphasis on “roles” ( a non biblical word) will mean the church will not be blessed by more women like Mary Slessor, Amy Carmichael, Catherine Booth, Jackie Pullinger etc.I am a European in an area of little evangelical witness, we are obsessed with reaching the lost. Men preach and lead most of the time however room is given to gifted women. I worry about the energy poured into these discussions when souls are at stake.I have never heard a sermon in my country on the relationship between men and women apart from the context of marriage.

  3. Kathy says:

    As a Christian woman it makes my heart leap for joy to hear these godly men speak articulately about Scripture’s role for men and women. I want to be FOUGHT FOR, whether that be spiritually or physically or emotionally. I want the security of a godly man who is fully masculine as God intended him to be. I want to know that I can rely on the authority of scripture. Where else am I to turn for truth if not God Himself as revealed in His word?

    Thanks for posting these two videos. I am encouraged and strengthened. I also have some scriptural arguments to use when I discuss why preaching is reserved for the men, and why eldership is reserved for the men, and where it’s discussed in scripture, and why it’s critical not to undermine what God has told us to believe, and to do, and to be.

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