Revelation Conference, Session 6 – Questions and Answers

This one was really hard to live-blog and keep up with.  Here’s my best effort.  The audio is free and available for download.  You can go to this site, or download it by right clicking on this link.

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Riddlebarger is moderating and posing the questions.

Question 1 – What are the different resurrections mentioned in Revelation 20?

Beale’s answer:

·         Revelation 20:4-6

·         There are those who are persecuted

·         There are those who did not worship the beast

·         Both groups came to life  before the 1000 years.

·         Then the others came to life after the 1000 years (20:5).

·         The resurrection in v. 5 is a physical resurrection.

·         In v. 4, Beale thinks it is a spiritual resurrection (contra premillennialism). Reasons:

o   There are 2 deaths in this passage (the view of M. Kline).  If we can understand the 2 deaths, we can understand the 2 resurrections.

o   Physical death in v. 4.

o   The second death is eternal (v. 6). 

o   The two deaths are separate and different in kind, physical and spiritual, can it also be with the resurrections?

o   There will be a physical resurrection of the believer and unbeliever at the end of the age, and the unbeliever goes to the spiritual death.

o   Further at v. 4 – they came to life, probably an allusion to Ezekiel 37 where God breathed to them and they were to live.  All take Ezekiel 37 as a spiritual resurrection.

Johnson

·         The bodily resurrection of believers and unbelievers in 20:12 coincides with Paul in 1 Cor. 15.  The second death is done away with at the resurrection.

Beale –

·         there is only one place where 2 resurrections would be mentioned, and that is here at Revelation 20.  

·         Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 says you are a kingdom of priests – that is a past and present reality.  Look at 20:6 for the connection – the way to interpret Scripture by Scripture, interpret Revelation by Revelation, 1:6, 5:10, and 20:6.  What we have is an “already, not yet” millennium. 

Baugh

·         Read church history and get connected to their views.  You’ll see early traces of amillenniallism.

Riddlebarger

·         Read Kline’s essay on it.

Beale

·         Look at 20:4 – do a word study on thrones.  Not one time does it refers to an earthly throne, unless in this one instance.

Question #2 – what evidence is there for the dating of Revelation after AD 70?

Baugh

·         Early church testimony

·         Earthquake in Laodicea in the during Nero is problematic for preterists. 

Johnson

·         Arguments for pre AD70 seem to be more motivated that the main thrust of Revelation’s critique is against Judaism than against the church.

Beale

·         Read chapter 18 of Revelation – It is a world thing and not local.  And Jesus is the center of the people of God, not the temple.

Question #3 – What about imminence of Christ’s return if amillennialism is true?

Baugh

·         Live like he’s coming today.  Be ready, the spirit of antichrist is here (1 John).

·         2 Thess. 2 – announcing the man of lawlessness to come.

Beale

·         The imminence is this: the last hour (from Daniel 8-12), where the last days, the great tribulation, is the last hour.

·         We won’t be sure if this is the final antichrist?  I’m not sure, and then when it’s finally over, then we’ll say,”Tthat was it.”

Question 4 –what’s wrong with postmillennialism?

Johnson

·         What happens to during the millennium is the difference btw. Post and amillennialists.  Scripture does not lead us to believe Christ’s victory is contingent on cultural transformation.  The hope is the 2nd coming of Christ.

Baugh

·         We tend to look at the U. S. and not the global scene.

Question 5 – Why are the numbers taken symbolically and not literally?

Baugh

·         He’s tying into Daniel’s prophecy.

·         144,000 is a multiple of 12, a symbolic number.

·         Matthew 1 has theological depth in the numbers.

Johnson

·         Rev. 7:14 – the 12 mentioned match no list of the 12.  Christopher Smith explains the order.

·         The second-class, concubine sons, are moved up in the list.

Beale

·         After the 144,000, “the great multitude that no one could count.”  Where is that from? The Abrahamic seed.

Beale finished a book on the biblical theology of idolatry. 

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I love Jesus Christ and live to share life and share Jesus together with First Southern Baptist Church of Bellflower primarily to Southeast Los Angeles County.
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